How is the world debt crisis
affecting your investment decisions?
It really doesn't play too much of a direct
role in our evaluation of individual companies.
This is not a problem that "snuck up" on
us in the last few months. We've been aware of the
high debt levels around the world for quite some
time, so Europe's problems don't really come as a
surprise. While ever mindful of the macro picture,
our analysis is centered at the company level.
Sell-offs triggered by systemic crises often
present buying opportunities and that is exactly
what we are seeing today.
What kind of opportunities has
recent volatility been creating?
I think volatility is here to stay. It's
something we'll have to live with. As a result, we
are seeing attractive opportunities emerge across
the micro-cap spectrum, particularly in
U.S.-listed Chinese companies. Our Hong
Kong-listed holdings have actually held up quite
well but are finally starting to come in a bit, so
we are slowly adding to these names.
You were the first of Royce's
investment staff to look closely at the Asian
markets, and China in particular. What first drew
your attention there?
Even five or six years ago it was clear that
there was tremendous potential in China. It was
difficult to know where to begin, so we started
out with Chinese companies that were listed on the
American exchanges. We soon resolved to go
directly to the Hong Kong market, though, in order
to talk to the people who are more in the know.
Now we have a team of analysts covering Asia, and
we visit several times a year to talk directly
with the senior management teams of these Asian
companies. We have learned a lot about this
investment universe and have built up a
comprehensive database on these companies that we
can draw from.
How is the housing slump in
China affecting Asian stock markets?
Real estate prices are adjusting mainly due to
the government's efforts to slow things down and
discourage speculation. However there are several
things to note here. First, real estate prices
have been hurt most in big tier one cities like
Beijing and Shanghai. There are many other tier
two, three and four cities that are quite large.
In fact, there are 22 cities in China with over
five million people, 71 with two to five million,
and 121 cities with at least one million people.*
These lower tier cities have not seen real estate
prices escalate to the extent they have in the
bigger cities. Furthermore, there's not a lot of
leverage in the system. Healthy down payments of
30-70% are often required, and 100% cash payments
are not uncommon. The final thing to note here is
that in terms of the equity markets it's been the
Chinese A-shares that have been hit the hardest.
This is essentially a closed market, since these
are shares in mainland China-based companies that
trade on Chinese stock exchanges, and are held
almost exclusively by Chinese nationals. For sure,
companies listed on Hong Kong have declined as
well, but not nearly to the same extent as the A
shares.
What lessons did you learn from
each of the portfolio managers with whom you've
worked—Chuck Royce, Charlie Dreifus and Buzz
Zaino?
While they all share a common denominator in
being pioneers in small cap investing, there are
certainly nuances in their respective styles.
Chuck introduced me to the core tenets of the
Royce approach; thinking about how companies
generate returns on their capital, the importance
of healthy balance sheets, identifying the
characteristics of good businesses, etc. In
working with Buzz over the past eight years I've
gained exposure to his singular opportunistic
style, and an appreciation for some unique
investment themes. Attractive opportunities often
exist in turnarounds, busted IPOs and hidden asset
plays. I learned from Charlie the importance of
having a deep knowledge base of what a company
does. He and I have travelled throughout the
country visiting companies on-site to uncover what
it is that enables them to consistently achieve
high returns on capital. I use some of what I
learned from each of them in my work every day.
* International Strategy and Investment Report,
April 14, 2010.
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James
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is a Portfolio Manager for Royce &
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